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IL-2 P-40 has a chance!


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It's a step in the right direction, but I hope for a solution addressing the root cause of the complaints - that the entire "damage on a timer" concept isn't grounded in reality.

No amount of historical data can fix a fictional mechanic. If the P-40 is changed, attention will only shift to other planes with restrictive limits.

I'll admit I don't even know what the optimal solution would be. It's a tricky game design problem.

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When a real pilots life is hanging in the balance, I can't imagine he would pay much attention to strictly keeping the engine running 'by the manual' ... an engine wouldn't suddenly seize up because the pilot kept it at max for a minute or two over... from what I've read, pilots often exceeded the limits in combat.

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The engine timer issue is a tough one to solve, in a real engine there are so many factors that add together to dictate when that exact engine in those exact conditions would fail. Engine 1 can last twice as long as engine 2 because engine 2 has a crankshaft that was dropped at the factory and has micro fractures in it, and engine 3 has a hose that has a thin spot. 

I had contemplated some type of variable, maybe something along the lines of a minimum time based on the book + a random amount of time. With some audible or visual queue for the player to notice he is pushing it too far?   MaxT=Emin+Eran  if EMaxT- MaxT-WarnT then TempGuageSpike or something along those lines.

 

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Reading some articles from RAF pilots in the past, it seems that quite a few of the squadrons had an aircraft that was the squadron 'nail'... it was the 'old hack', been pushed beyond it's normal limitations and didn't perform as well as the others... don't know how that could be implemented into a game, lol, who would want to fly the old hack eh?

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Gotta admit I have a real soft spot for the P-40.

Didn't mind the P-40 in 1946, not a great FM but liveable. After all it was the only one around to fly. 

As Feldgrun mentioned though, in Desert Wings it is excellent. Performs very closely to first hand accounts. A real joy to fly and fight, but always with it's limitations in mind.

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14 hours ago, Boom said:

Gotta admit I have a real soft spot for the P-40.

Didn't mind the P-40 in 1946, not a great FM but liveable. After all it was the only one around to fly. 

As Feldgrun mentioned though, in Desert Wings it is excellent. Performs very closely to first hand accounts. A real joy to fly and fight, but always with it's limitations in mind.

I just flew the P-40B & C in 1946 and they're not quite as great as I remembered. Not nearly as good as the P-40s/Tomahawks in Desert Wings, which are excellent aircraft!

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On 11/20/2023 at 8:11 AM, Feldgrün said:

I just flew the P-40B & C in 1946 and they're not quite as great as I remembered. Not nearly as good as the P-40s/Tomahawks in Desert Wings, which are excellent aircraft!

Back then, flight models were made more so to represent relative strengths and weaknesses. It's only recently that perfectly accurate performance has become a widespread goal. The 1946 American planes were coded with Japanese opponents in mind, so they weren't fine tuned against Germans. 

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